CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
As for the "intent," Ichabod has spoken on this ruling many times and it is not just limited to Rebuild the Town but was intended to apply broadly to all sorts of resources.
What resources? List? Quotes? Anything?
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
The idea being that if the resource player is going to play a resource before facing the automatic attack then the hazard player should be able to respond.
Huh? Automatic-attacks do not occur during the moment/hazard phase; the one phase where the hazard player can play stuff. Genuinely, from what is this deriving?
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
Removing an automatic attack affects the site card as automatic attacks are attributes of site cards. So it does not affect an "attack." This attribute of a site card is not an "attack" until it "attacks" the company.
This is precisely in line with this proposal. When it the automatic-attack occurs, if the created attack comes from a permanent event, the attack can be removed from the company by removing the permanent-event so that it ceases to have any affect on play.
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
One discrepancy is that this concept goes the other way for revealing on-guard events that add automatic attacks -- they modify the site's attributes, not the attack already given, yet have been ruled to be revealable on-guard as cards that modify [the site's] automatic attack. To me this is a better point for clarification.
This is done by the hazard player in accordance with on-guard rules, and is independent from this proposal affecting hero resource play.
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
I think this is the entire point. Any removal
should be played during the M/H phase when the hazard player can respond.
Pure opinion? Or based on what? Again, automatic-attacks do not occur during the moment/hazard phase which is the only time the hazard player can normally respond, and even the on-guard rules require revealing before resource play affecting the attack and not in response, so why should the hazard player be entitled to any responses concerning automatic-attacks?
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
My understanding from the LoRE 2nd edition gamma rules...
Please take conversation about a different version of the game elsewhere.
CDavis7M wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:08 pm
If we back up, the entire discussion revolves around players wanting to play cards without their opponent having the opportunity to respond effectively. The resource player wants to play Marvels Told in the site phase so that they are free from Many Sorrows and Call of Home (well, there is also the possibility that they only just drew the card). The hazard player should be able to respond.
The resource player can currently play Marvels Told during the site phase after facing automatic-attacks without the hazard player getting a chance to respond. So, again, where is this "should be able to respond" coming from?