III. GCCG Nations Cup 2009 (Rules/Pairings/Results)

Ringbearer · Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:10 pm

What if teams end up in equal TP. What is the tiebreaker? result among themselves, strength of schedule, coinflip, judge deciding (;))?

Bandobras Took · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:13 pm

In the event of a tie, team USA shall win.

marcos · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:14 pm

/me cheers for Argentina and/ or Austria!!!

spaniards have so much luck, and USA... c'mon 3 dunkers... we can barely deal with trossell, we dont want 3 more...

domse · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:22 pm

hmmm...marcos...are you aware of the fact that you're insulting team germany!? Noo, i guess i screwed it up...

marcos · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:24 pm

domse wrote:hmmm...marcos...are you aware of the fact that you're insulting team germany!? Noo, i guess i screwed it up...

i'm not insulting your team, but i prefer to play vs argentina or austria than any of the above, or team germany's captain who is the actual world champion

Alter Tuk · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:27 pm

Ringbearer wrote:What if teams end up in equal TP. What is the tiebreaker? result among themselves, strength of schedule, coinflip, judge deciding (;))?

1st: TP
2nd: direct comparison
3rd: wins
4th: strength of opponents
5th: dice roll
6th: Germany qualifies

edit:

Alter Tuk wrote:Swiss System

* Teams' Tournament Points are determined by adding together the TPs of players playing for a team. Normal tie-breakers are in use.

Swiss system as described by the Council of Lorien.

edit2:
Strength of opponent wont work in this tournament as in each round technically 18 TP are given. So tie in TP would mean tie in opponents TP as well. Only exception: dunking decks. But it wouldnt make much sense to determine a dunker as a stronger opponent as one who beat you 0:6. So skip point # 4.

In future we should compare captains in step # 4. Compare them from # 1 - # 3. And then roll the dice!

edit3:

Maybe strength of opponents could be defined as TP all opponent scored in summary after 3 rounds... We will have to discuss and define that at some time.

Alter Tuk · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:32 pm

So this means: If we (Germany) tie with anybody, we would be qualified due to the number of wins. We have 6, the others would have 5 then.

marcos · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:37 pm

Alter Tuk wrote:So this means: If we (Germany) tie with anybody, we would be qualified due to the number of wins. We have 6, the others would have 5 then.

except if you get tied with spain II, in direct confrontation, they have defeated you...

Alter Tuk · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:47 pm

marcos wrote:except if you get tied with spain II, in direct confrontation, they have defeated you...

That is correct. I already dispossessed that.

Alter Tuk · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:49 pm

My proposal for future tournaments:

1st: TP
2nd: direct comparison
3rd: wins
4th: strength of opponents (summary of total TP of all opponent teams)
5th: Captains (go back to # 1)
6th: dice roll

marcos · Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:59 pm

agree

coro · Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:10 pm

hmmmm...

When you talk about wins are you referring to team wins or players wins?

I mean, it seems strange to me using direct confrontation as a team and in the other hand individual wins...

Alter Tuk · Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:34 pm

You mean there should be another tie breaker Team-Wins before individual wins? But no win is indiviudal. All for the nation!! (and a nation for all!?

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edit: good idea, btw

miguel · Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:45 pm

Alter Tuk wrote:Strength of opponent wont work in this tournament as in each round technically 18 TP are given. So tie in TP would mean tie in opponents TP as well..

I don't see how that would be. At the end of the Swiss system phase this tie-breaker will have an effect most of the time (you don't count how many TPs each team got facing your team, but the total TPs of each team your team has faced).

FWIW I don't think you need to go tweaking the tie-breakers, they should work fine.

Ringbearer · Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:52 pm

Flaneltina reigns again. The cheeze of me scored 4-2 vs Agustin in a nice game.