These posts are misleading or wrong.Theo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:34 pmI think the other reference Bandobras is going for is:Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:42 pm The corruption check of Nenya targets Galadriel, so you can't play it using your opponent's Galadriel.
Does "Galadriel" count as specifying an entity "by number and type"? Eh...CRF wrote:A target is an entity that an action is played out through. Enitities are only targets of an action if the action specifies those entities by number and type. Note that "the foo" counts as specifying one "foo."
If only it had been "The Galadriel". But this is probably implied.
The issue is not the target of the corruption check made by Galadriels (yes, she is the target). If that was the issue, then only Galadriels CC would fail at declaration (lack of active condition because you cannot target opponent's character). But the automatically successful CC would still be able to be declared and resolved because you can target your own character.
Here the action is playing a card. The target is Galadriel.MELE Glossary wrote:Targeting: Choosing a specific entity through which a card or effect will be played out. An entity chosen as such is the "target" of the action. Some possible targets are: characters, corruption checks, strike dice rolls, items, sites, and companies. A card that states it is playable on or with a certain entity targets that entity. Cards which affect an entire class of other cards do not target (e.g .. Wake of War)
MELE Glossary wrote:Condition, Active: A prerequisite for an action actively made by a player. Typically this involves tapping a character, discarding an item. or having a character of a particular skill in play. Active conditions are declared and resolved with no time for response by an opponent or yourself.
Instead, the issue is that the play of the Nenya card itself targets Galadriel (making the targeting an active condition of the action of playing the card). Here, the phrase "Galadriel only" is the active condition for playing Nenya. You can think of "Galadriel only", as used here, as equivalent to "Playable on Galadriel only."CRF - Terms - Active Condition wrote:Annotation 8: An action that requires a target is considered to have the active condition that the target be in play when the action is declared and when it is resolved. An action may not be declared if its target is not in play. However, dice-rolling actions may always be targeted by other actions declared later in the same chain of effects.
Your opponent's resources may be the active conditions for your resources, but may not be the targets for your resources.
You can tell that "Galadriel only" is the active condition for playing Nenya because it is not an action, nor is it describing some other action of the card or the rules. So, this statement can really only be an active condition or a keyword. It looks like a keyword, but in the earlier METW and METD cards, the "only" statements were used as active conditions. Typically active conditions are in bold italics and come after the keywords (unique often gets to be bold too).
"Galadriel only" cannot be a keyword because it would not be true if it was. If it was only a keyword and not an active condition, the automatically successful CC would be playable without Galadriel at all, and so the card would not really be "Galadriel only."
Events with active conditions will have a target for their playability active conditions. "Galadriel only" has no other conditions listed in this statement of active conditions. Some other active conditions have many more conditions. Like I said, you can think of this as equivalent to "Playable on Galadriel only." You can see that Vilya was originally "Elrond only" but when the card received errata, and when it was printed for the Challege decks, they used "Playable on Elrond only" instead.
So, Galadriel is not merely an active condition for playing Nenya, she is the Target for playing the Nenya. And so Nenya cannot be played using an opponent's Galadriel.
(see how Earth of Galariel's Orchard is merely an active condition for Mallorn but it is not the target of Mallorn)