Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:44 pm
I see a fundamental difference between a resources played at site and a resource played by a character at site.
Which rule are you basing this on?
I see a fundamental difference between the old on-guard rule "a card keyed to the site" and "a card played at the site". Under the old on-guard rules, a ring special item would not be "keyed to" the site, but it would be "played at" the site (at least per the CRF ruling). Whereas a major item would be both "keyed to" the site (listing major items as playable) at "at the site"
Although, there is also:
Await the Advent of Allies
Read "is wounded" as "becomes wounded."
"Playing a resource at the site" means playing a resource that taps the site or a resource that requires the site.
from:
>2) What does "play a resource at the site mean" in AtAoA? Playing a resource that taps the site or what?
Play a resource that taps the site, or requires the site to be played.
>Would playing a Lucky Strike on the character discard AtAoA?
No.
>Would playing Houses of Healing ON the site discard AtAoA?
Yes.
Special Rings don't fit this AtAoA ruling.
But Greed has numerous rulings on its own.
From: sfr...@comet.net (Scott Frazer)
Subject: Re: [METW] Official question on playing Minor Items
Date: 1996/02/19
Question: As close as I remember, the exact wording was: "You can play a Minor Item ANY TIME another item is played."
>Since it is so rare to see such open-ended rulings, my questions are as follows:
>1. Could a Minor Item also be played with Lucky Search?
Yes.
>2. What about when I use a Dwarven Ring to play an item?
Yes.
>3. What about when I successfully test a ring?
No. You'll have to trust me one this one... even though playing a gold
ring after a test will trigger a greed, or a lure of expedience, you do not
get to play a minor item just for testing a ring...
exception: Ringlore... you played this resource card (which requires
information cards to be playable) successfully, so you may play one
additional minor item.
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From: sfr...@comet.net (Scott Frazer)
Subject: Re: [METW] Picky Card Questions
Date: 1996/04/11
>While double checking all of the pages for MECLU (Middle Earth Card LookUp)
>I came accross the following (kinda) picky questions. On each page I will
>have rulings on the particular cards, and I thought that these should be
>included:
>
>A Friend or Three: May be played on a 1 person company?
>What if no influence being made?
Yes, it only give +1 though...
It only modifies the check, not the influence, so you must have a check
being made.
. . .
>Anduril
>- Narsil can be anywhere when it becomes Anduril (Poof).
>
>Greed
>- Is triggered when a special ring is played
>- Is not triggered when an item in play is transfered (See Lure of
>Expedience).
>
>Healing Herbs
>- Can be used to heal a wounded character before a body check.
(healing herbs) This is incorrect. The body check is the first declared action in the
chain of effect immediately following the strike dice roll, and the
only actions that can be played in response are ones that directly
affect the body check dice roll. Healing Herbs does not qualify, so
you would have to wait until after the body check.
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From: ich...@spamblock.net (Ichabod)
Subject: Re: [MECCG] Roving I & Greed Q
Date: 1997/08/04
>>> Can 'Greed' be played on-guard and revealed after the successful
>>> testing (with 'Secrets of their Forging') of a gold ring item.
>>
>>I know the answer to this one is no. You can't reveal an on-guard card
>>in response to a successful ring test (and subsequent playing of a ring
>>item with that ring).
>>
>>Puff the Magic Dragon
>>pt...@erols.com
>>
>
>Wait a minute, Lure of Expedience is triggered by the play of rings after
>a ring test, why not Greed?
It's two different things. Greed will trigger a corruption check from
the play of a ring special item after a test, but that does not mean
you can reveal an on-guard card in response to a ring special item
being played. The conditions for Greed forcing a corruption check
are broader than those for revealing on-guard cards.
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ICE Digest 90
[Two companies, A and B, at the same Wizardhaven with seperate site cards]
[Greed played on B's version of the site]
>Suppose now that a second Greed was played on-guard at the WT wizardhaven
>card moved to by A.
>After a character in B has played the palantir and that Greed was revealed
>and resolved, fallen Pallando (from A) plays Wizard's Ring at A's version
>of the site. Can the second Greed be revealed or would that be considered
>duplicating Greed at the same site which is not allowed?
It is considered a different site for the cannot be duplicated.
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From: Gnome <7633...@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: [MECCG] Rules Digest 537
> 4) Does Greed affect a ring test? Such as when that prec gold ring
>turns into a Dwarven Ring?
Yes.
It comes down to the fact that Greed is "playable on a site" and so "an item played at the site" is more of a limitation preventing items played at other sites from triggering Greed, instead of a requirement that the item actually be keyed to the site.