Gollum, Stinker, Mathom Lore, Tales of the Hunt - semicolon

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Konrad Klar
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The Dragons: Tales of the Hunt
Rarity: Common, Precise: C2

Resource: Permanent-event

Playable on a Man at a Border-hold [-me_bh-]; tap the Man. Bearer may tap to untap any character in his company. Bearer makes a corruption check. "There was a flying sound of hooves on the path ahead. Out of the gloom came suddenly the shape of a flying deer." -Hob
The Dragons: Mathom Lore
Rarity: Rare, Precise: R2

Resource: Permanent-event

Playable on a Hobbit at Bag End; tap the Hobbit. During the organization phase, bearer may tap to choose a minor item from your play deck or discard pile to place in your hand. Reshuffle your play deck if it was used. Bearer makes a corruption check. "...anything that Hobbits had no immediate use for, but were unwilling to throw away, they called a mathom." -LotRI
The Lidless Eye: Stinker
Rarity: Uncommon, Precise: U

Resource: Ally

Unique. Playable at Goblin-gate or Moria. Manifestation of Gollum and My Precious. If his company's size is less than three, tap Stinker to cancel one attack against his company keyed to Wilderness [-me_wi-] or Shadowland [-me_sl-]. You may tap Stinker if he is at the same non-Darkhaven site as The One Ring; then both Stinker and The One Ring are discarded.
The Wizards: Gollum
Rarity: Uncommon, Precise: U

Resource: Ally

Unique. Playable at Goblin-gate or Moria. If his company's size is less than three, tap Gollum to cancel one attack against his company keyed to Wilderness [-me_wi-] or Shadowland [-me_sl-]. Tap Gollum if he is at the same non-Haven site as The One Ring; then both Gollum and The One Ring are discarded.
For Tales of the Hunt and Mathom Lore it seems like that targets taps at declaration. Playing a card on target and tapping it are simultaneous actions, not consecutive.

What about tapping Gollum/Stinker and discarding them along with The One Ring? Are they simultaneous actions or first is condition for second?
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I read tapping Gollum/Stinker as the active condition for the discard effect.
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What about Mathom Lore, Tales of the Hunt?
In your opinion target taps at declaration or is it main effect?
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That one can go either way. I'm inclined to read it as the condition for the play of the card, as opposed to Gollum/Stinker, where it is instead the active condition of initiating an optional effect.
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