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Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:32 am
by Lake Town Geezer
Another unclear point for me. The New and Old Friendship cards say, for example:
"Diplomat only. +x to a corruption check for a character in the diplomat's company."
Does this mean that if a diplomat wants to adjust his corruption check with this card, he needs another diplomat in his company; or can he play it on himself?
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:43 am
by Konrad Klar
He can play it on corruption check he is facing (that is not the same as "on himself"). Diplomat in some company is a character in the company.
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:40 am
by Lake Town Geezer
Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:43 am
He can play it on corruption check he is facing (that is not the same as "on himself"). Diplomat in some company is a character in the company.
Thanks. I guess this means yes - you only need one diplomat in the company. I am thinking here about Gandalf (who is a diplomat) playing Narya in a company with no other diplomat. If he plays 'old friendship' after playing Narya but before the corruption roll - it should help then with the corruption check.
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:43 pm
by CDavis7M
Right.
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:42 am
by Konrad Klar
Diplomat in question is not enacting "+x to a corruption check for a character in the diplomat's company". There is nothing in declaration (he does not tap to, does not discard an item he bears) nor in main effect (some action like e.g. cc, tapping, discarding) that would specify him as enacting character.
It is enough if both at declaration and at resolution a company will contain any Diplomat; non-Orc, non-Troll for FW player (declared cc is required too, of course).
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:11 pm
by CDavis7M
Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:42 am
Diplomat in question is not enacting "+x to a corruption check for a character in the diplomat's company". There is nothing in declaration (he does not tap to, does not discard an item he bears) nor in main effect (some action like e.g. cc, tapping, discarding) that would specify him as enacting character.
It is enough if both at declaration and at resolution a company will contain any Diplomat; non-Orc, non-Troll for FW player (declared cc is required too, of course).
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Diplomat only" means that the card is playable on a diplomat only. New/Old Friendship both target a character that is a Diplomat. When you play one of these cards, you physically place it on the character to satisfy the condition.
So it is
not "enough if both at declaration and at resolution a company will contain any Diplomat."
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:25 pm
by Konrad Klar
I do not think so.
And I think that Stinker may tap to Concealment. Gollum may tap to A Nice Place to Hide.
Both Stinker and Gollum may tap to Stealth but Sneakin' may not be played on Gollum.
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:45 pm
by CDavis7M
If the card was only looking for a Diplomat to be in play, it would say "in play."
Re: Diplomats using the friendship cards
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:51 am
by Konrad Klar
New/Old Friendship are looking for Diplomat in company of character facing a cc.