Council of Elrond

Does a manifestation of a character count as the caracter in any case?

So can Strider play Return of the King or use Athelas???

No.

CRF -> Rulings by Term -> M -> Manifestation
A manifestation of a card is not the same as the named card
A manifestation of <foo> cannot play <foo> specific cards

Sauron wrote: A manifestation of <foo> cannot play <foo> specific cards

Unless <foo> = <foo> of course

thanks... because a guy I knew once played it that way...*G*
but I always thought it didn't work... but he was to confessed and I finaly started beliving it...*G*

Wacho wrote:

Sauron wrote: A manifestation of <foo> cannot play <foo> specific cards

Unless <foo> = <foo> of course

"Foo" is its own manifestation?

Konrad Klar wrote:

Wacho wrote:

Sauron wrote: A manifestation of <foo> cannot play <foo> specific cards

Unless <foo> = <foo> of course

"Foo" is its own manifestation?

Certainly.

MEDM, Manifestations, Example wrote:Example: Gollum (the ally manifestation of Gollum) is in play with one of your characters.