Strikes from creatures keyed to a region by name cannot be cancelled by Elven Cloak or Shadow Cloak which cancel strikes keyed by type only.miguel wrote:But the resource player could respond to the declaration of Morgul Night's effect by playing Hidden Haven...zarathustra wrote:But then I have this little question: suppose Alatar comes into play at The Stones and MN is in play. What if Alatar now wants to play Hidden Haven on his site? I think that this should clearly be disallowed. The question then becomes: when does Andrast become a ? I think the answer is: right after Alatar comes into play. It works, if I am right, like this:
1: Alatar played from hand at The Stones (i.e., he and The Stones are simultaneously brought into play). He may only be played here if the site is a in a . It is. No problem.
2: After The Stones is in play, it triggers the passive condition of MN.
3: Unless someone does something, MN's passive condition resolves and The Stones is considered to be in a .
Make sense?
There is also a problem with giving region names a region type. Say I key a creature to Rhudaur (no MN in play), should my opponent be able to cancel a strike with Elven Cloak?
But yeah I agree, Hidden Havening when MN is out seems weird...
Following the logic from the other thread, Morgul Night would not creating passive conditions leading to actions.