Theo wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:16 am Except there is no conditional "if" in this instance.

Sounds more like a passive condition or game state requirement.

Did you try playing Ancient Deep-hold and then declaring Deep Mines as the adjacent site? Let me know what you think.

Are Udun and Dagorlad even really adjacent for a RW player's hazard agents? Udun and Dagorlad adjacency is an exception for region movement. The region movement exception doesn't say it's exclusively for region movement. However, the MELE rules on agent movement say to use the MEDM rules without men...

I was talking about this with a non-CoE veteran player and I looked into it more myself. Anyway, I noticed that ICE counted non-minion hazard agents as 1/2 creature in their example "tournament ready" Ringwraith deck. Makes sense.

Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:22 am You have invested much of your energy and your time to convince others that there is no issue to fix.

I have wasted far less time on this than the voters did.

By the way, was the original post trying to suggest that when you play Ancient Deep-hold you can select FW Deep-mines as the adjacent site??? I find that it helps to actually play the card to see how it works, or in this case why it doesn't. Care to explain your deductive process? It seems like a v...

You best chance at stopping the machine is before it goes off as it's unlikely to need a restart. Any adjustments made afterwards aren't going to save you often (against a competent Carambor deck/player). There are many basic ways to tap Carambor but ironically a Tryhard deck would have more diffic...

My complaint is with wasting time over a non-issue while promoting misinterpretations of the rules that would apparently cause issues in other cards that don't actually have issues.

There are some resource short-events that may be played at some point and their effect may be used later. What you think about Come by Night Upon Them? Even if you think that the card may be played only in site phase, can you say that: "The first item played at the site does not tap the site.&...

But receiving MP for a card does not directly affect combat. So an eliminated Ally card cannot give MP as if it were an eliminated character card.

Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:56 pm Your objections are delusional and have been answered.

Your command of the rules and the English language has thoroughly convinced me.

Therefore, Old Cache'd effect has no limitation on "how long it stays in play." Right. It does not disappear next turn. There is next site phase in next turn. But proposed errata removes the issue. But there is no issue to remove because Old Cache's effect resolves immediately. It would b...

Unfortunately your interpretation of Thrall of the Voice differs from the ICE Netrep's interpretation. And your interpretation of the rules differs from the ICE Netrep's in many other situations (Deep Mines, Adunaphel hazard, River on guard, Alone and Unadvised, etc.)

Limiting an effect to being used in a particular phase does not limit " how long it stays in play " because the phase happens every turn. If the phase is the only restriction, the effect does NOT leave play and could still be used the following turn. This is exactly what you said: (if play...

ICE 80 is clearly WRONG about "the exact rule"---if that was the limit of allies counting, allies couldn't be wounded or eliminated. The closest thing I can find (itself a quote) is: Regardless, though Fellowship being discarded is clearly not a purpose of combat. The ruling is NOT implyi...