Q4 - CoE Issued Erratum Smoke Rings & Weigh all things

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Manuel
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Can Smoke Rings and Weigh All Things to a Nicety move cards of the opposite alignment?

Short answer:

Not when playing FW.

Explanation:

In 2018, a community vote was held in which it was decided that there would be an additional ruling added to Smoke Rings and Weigh All Things to a Nicety. You can find the voting here:

Ballot Item # 11 - Smoke Rings & Weigh All Things to a Nicety {clarifications} - Council of Elrond
https://councilofelrond.org/forum/viewt ... 144&t=3375

The proposal was intended to prohibit a resource of the opposite alignment from being targeted when playing Fallen-wizard, so the following text was ratified for both cards:
May not be used to bring an opposite alignment resource card into your play deck. An opposite alignment character card is permitted.
However, this committee has identified several problems with this erratum:

1. There is an existing rule in the MEWH rulebook that already says:
A hero resource card may not target/affect a minion site card or a minion resource card. A minion resource card may not target/affect a hero site card or a hero resource card.
And Ichabod confirmed in Digest 53:
Can you use Smoke Rings/Weigh All Things to a Nicety to retrieve cards of the opposite alignment? I've assumed you can't, but I'm not sure. You can use either to retrieve Stage Cards, right?

Smoke Rings targets the card it retrieves, so it could not get a minion
resource. Either could retrieve Stage resource cards.
Assuming that Smoke Rings and Weigh All Things to a Nicety do in fact target the resource or character that they are moving (which this committee is comfortable with upholding, considering Ichabod’s guidelines), this citation from MEWH would cover the alignment issue without the community ruling being needed. Although the normal rules only allow cards within the game to be targeted, a card effect overrides any normal rules that it contradicts, and thus the card being moved can in fact be targeted.

2. This erratum unintentionally allows a Fallen-wizard player to use Smoke Rings to bring an Orc/Troll character from the sideboard or discard pile. However, from the MEWH rules:
A hero resource may not target an Orc or Troll character (e.g. Orc and Troll characters may not use Block, Escape, etc.).
Thus, this committee has decided to remove this committee ruling, as it is not necessary and actually problematic per the above. In addition, CRF clarification will be added that these cards do, in fact, target the cards that they move.
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