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Nerdmeetsyou
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I heared that the challange decks are quiet imbalanced....
I think it was about, that two of them are realy weak...

could you tell me which ones and why?

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Adunaphel is very low on MP. Its hard to get the 20. And cobined with the hazard portions of the other minion challenge decks you should be glad if you loose 2:4.
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okay... thanks...
Goblin King
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I'm a bit of a Necromancer! Actually I saw this tread and I've finally finished playing a round-robin with each challenge deck vs. every other challenge deck (eight matches per deck). It only took me 6 years to do (I don't play often enough).
Anyhow here are the results a deck by deck grid will hopefully follow.
Deck Score v Hero Score v Minion Total and Record
Stewards of Gondor 4+2+1+6= 13 5+4+2+2+2=15 28 4W-5L
Release the Prisoners 2+3+2+1= 8 6+2+2+1+4=14 23 2W-6L-1T
Dwarven Quest 4+3+0+4= 11 6+4+4+4+4=22 33 7W-1L-1T
Bargain Between Friends 5+4+6+2= 17 4+4+4+2+2=16 33 6W-3L
Return of the King 0+5+2+4= 11 5+2+6+4+0=17 28 5W-4L

Minion Decks

Deck Scores v. Minion Scores v. Hero Total and Record
Spies and Traitors 2+4+0+2=6 2+1+0+2+2=7 13 1W-8L
Marauding Brood of Uglies 4+4+4+4=16 2+5+2+2+4= 15 31 6W-3L
Stealthy Tribe 4+2+2+2=10 4+4+2+2+0=12 22 3W-6L
Morgul Rallying Cry 6+2+4+2= 14 4+5+2+4+2=17 31 5W-4L
Seducing the Nations of Men 4+2+4+4=14 4+2+2+4+6=18 32 6W-3L
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Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Stewards of Gondor 30 Release the Prisoners 25 Stole Balin w/ 2 items
Stewards of Gondor 27 Dwarven Quest 29 Kill points win
Stewards of Gondor 17 Bargain Between Friends 26
Stewards of Gondor 30 Return of the King 9 Aragorn lost to early corruption roll of 2

Vs Minion Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Stewards of Gondor 30 Spies and Traitors 19
Stewards of Gondor 34 Marauding Brood of Uglies 23 Lost only faction to muster
Stewards of Gondor 27 Stealthy Tribe 30
Stewards of Gondor 24 Morgul Rallying Cry 31
Stewards of Gondor 23 Seducing the Nations of Men 24 Lost on final corruption checks.

Tournament Point: vs. Hero: 4+2+1+6= 13. Vs. Minion: 5+4+2+2+2=15
Total: 28
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Vs Hero Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Release the Prisoners 25 Stewards of Gondor 30 Stole Balin w/ 2 items
Release the Prisoners 28 Dwarven Quest 28 He bagged the book on last turn to tie it.
Release the Prisoners 23 Bargain Between Friends 24 Final corruption check cost us both. I lost more.
Release the Prisoners 19 Return of the King 34 My resources don’t show up until late in the game.

Vs Minion Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Release the Prisoners 33 Spies and Traitors 13 Double factions & Allies
Release the Prisoners 21 Marauding Brood of Uglies 39 No factions to his 3.
Release the Prisoners 15 Stealthy Tribe 28 Alatar killed by wrights. Beretar corrupted w/ Orcrist
Release the Prisoners 22 Morgul Rallying Cry 38 Roadblock killed last three turns.
Release the Prisoners 21 Seducing the Nations of Men 15 Failed corruption on both sides. Brutal!

Tournament Point: vs. Hero: 2+3+2+1= 8. Vs. Minion: 6+2+2+1+4=14
Total: 23
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Vs Hero Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Dwarven Quest 29 Stewards of Gondor 27 Kill points win
Dwarven Quest 28 Release The Prisoners 28 Stored the book on last turn to tie it!
Dwarven Quest 6 Bargain Between Friends 24 Radagast Killed!
Dwarven Quest 32 Return of the King 28 Gandalf corrupted on snake eyes.

Vs Minion Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Dwarven Quest 32 Spies and Traitors 10 Wolves and Dragons eat well. I rebuild; he doesn’t.
Dwarven Quest 38 Marauding Brood of Uglies 37 Epic two-deck game!
Dwarven Quest 34 Stealthy Tribe 31
Dwarven Quest 32 Morgul Rallying Cry 31 Roadblock worked early but high pnt. hoard items made comeback possible.
Dwarven Quest 34 Seducing the Nations of Men 28 Stole Gollum & double down on followers

Tournament Point: vs. Hero: 4+3+0+4= 11. Vs. Minion: 6+4+4+4+4=22
Total: 33
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Vs Hero Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Bargain Between Friends 26 Stewards of Gondor 17
Bargain Between Friends 24 Release the Prisoners 23 Lost Gimli on final corruption but he lost more.
Bargain Between Friends 24 Dwarven Quest 6 Killed Ratagast
Bargain Between Friends 12 Return of the King 18 2 deck game with both wizards and 10 characters killed!

Vs Minion Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Bargain Between Friends 29 Spies and Traitors 25 Lost my wizard to slayer but kept rolling.
Bargain Between Friends 37 Marauding Brood of Uglies 27 My deck flows. His doesn’t.
Bargain Between Friends 26 Stealthy Tribe 18
Bargain Between Friends 27 Morgul Rallying Cry 33 Fire drake eats Legolas and Gimli
Bargain Between Friends 24 Seducing the Nations of Men 26 Beorn & Legolas lost to corruption cks.

Tournament Point: vs. Hero: 5+4+6+2= 17. Vs. Minion: 4+4+4+2+2=16
Total: 33
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Vs Hero Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Return of the King 9 Stewards of Gondor 30 Aragorn lost to early corruption roll of 2
Return of the King 34 Release the Prisoners 19 Fight corruption the entire game but resources flow.
Return of the King 28 Dwarven Quest 32 Gandalf corrupted on snake eyes roll.
Return of the King 18 Bargain Between Friends 12 2-deck game with both wizards dead along with 10 characters

Vs Minion Decks
Deck and Score Opponent and Score Notes
Return of the King 33 Spies and Traitors 18 Factions doubled!
Return of the King 29 Marauding Brood of Uglies 31 Lost only ally on the last turn
Return of the King 27 Stealthy Tribe 10 Factions/items double!
Return of the King 26 Morgul Rallying Cry 21 Only two orc factions
Return of the King 15 Seducing the Nations of Men 34 TPK corruption and killing

Tournament Point: vs. Hero: 0+5+2+4= 11. Vs. Minion: 5+2+6+4+0=17
Total: 28
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Vs Minion Decks
Deck Opponent Notes
Spies and Traitors 21 Marauding Brood of Uglies 31
Spies and Traitors 27 Stealthy Tribe 26
Spies and Traitors 13 Morgul Rallying Cry 27 Asternak Corrupted
Spies and Traitors 28 Seducing the Nations of Men 35 Failed to get faction on last turn so faction x5 doubled.

Vs Hero Decks

Deck Opponent Notes
Spies and Traitors 19 Stewards of Gondor 30
Spies and Traitors 13 Release the Prisoners 33 No factions or allies
Spies and Traitors 10 Dwarven Quest 32 No ally. 3 characters killed.
Spies and Traitors 25 Bargain Between Friends 29 Killed wizard but it wasn’t enough.
Spies and Traitors 18 Return of the King 33 No factions again!

Tournament
Vs. Minion 2+4+0+2=6
Vs. Hero 2+1+0+2+2= 7
Total:15
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Vs Minion Decks
Deck Opponent Notes
Marauding Brood of Uglies 31 Spies and Traitors 21 Lead the whole time
Marauding Brood of Uglies 28 Stealthy Tribe 24 Lt. of Mordor passed a corruption test of 7 on the last turn to win!
Marauding Brood of Uglies 26 Morgul Rallying Cry 25
Marauding Brood of Uglies 29 Seducing the Nations of Men 24 Wolves ate well this game

Vs Hero Decks

Deck Opponent Notes
Marauding Brood of Uglies 23 Stewards of Gondor 34 Lost only faction to muster
Marauding Brood of Uglies 39 Release the Prisoners 21 3 factions double their points!
Marauding Brood of Uglies 37 Dwarven Quest 38 Epic neck to neck race through two decks.
Marauding Brood of Uglies 27 Bargain Between Friends 37 Can’t fight the deck clumpage. ☹
Marauding Brood of Uglies 31 Return of the King 29 Used Stay Her only ally on the last turn for the win!

Tournament Points
Vs. Minion 4+4+4+4=16
Vs. Hero 2+5+2+2+4= 15
Total Points = 31
Goblin King
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Vs Minion Decks
Deck Opponent Notes
Stealthy Tribe 27 Spies and Traitors 26
Stealthy Tribe 24 Marauding Brood of Uglies 28 Bad luck
Stealthy Tribe 23 Morgul Rallying Cry 26 Nameless Thing wins
Stealthy Tribe 24 Seducing the Nations of Men 27 Gorbag corrupted with High Helm

Vs Hero Decks

Deck Opponent Notes
Stealthy Tribe 30 Stewards of Gondor 27
Stealthy Tribe 28 Release the Prisoners 16 Killed Alatar
Stealthy Tribe 31 Dwarven Quest 34 Trailed the whole game
Stealthy Tribe 18 Bargain Between Friends 26 Couldn’t find scrolls to play Moria again
Stealthy Tribe 10 Return of the King 27 Nothing worked.
Tournament
Vs. Minion: 4+2+2+2=10
Vs. Hero:4+4+2+2+0=12
Total:22
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Vs Minion Decks
Deck Opponent Notes
Morgul Rallying Cry 27 Spies and Traitors 13 Asternak corrupted
Morgul Rallying Cry 25 Marauding Brood of Uglies 26
Morgul Rallying Cry 26 Stealthy Tribe 23 Nameless Thing wins
Morgul Rallying Cry 24 Seducing the Nations of Men 28

Vs Hero Decks

Deck Opponent Notes
Morgul Rallying Cry 31 Stewards of Gondor 24
Morgul Rallying Cry 38 Release the Prisoners 22 Resources flowed! Played all but 1 point in first cycle.
Morgul Rallying Cry 31 Dwarven Quest 32 Roadblock worked but resources were too slow.
Morgul Rallying Cry 33 Bargain Between Friends 27 Fire drake eats Legolas and Gimli
Morgul Rallying Cry 21 Return of the King 26 Unable to get 3rd Orc faction for a 9 point swing

Tournament Points:
Vs Minion decks 6+2+4+2= 14
Vs Hero: 4+5+2+4+2=17
Total: 31
Goblin King
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Vs Minion Decks
Deck Opponent Notes
Seducing the Nations of Men 35 Spies and Traitors 28 Failed to get Woses on last turn factions x5 doubled
Seducing the Nations of Men 24 Marauding Brood of Uglies 29 Wolves ate well this game
Seducing the Nations of Men 27 Stealthy Tribe 24 Corrupted Gorbug with High Helm
Seducing the Nations of Men 28 Morgul Rallying Cry 24


Vs Hero Decks

Deck Opponent Notes
Seducing the Nations of Men 24 Stewards of Gondor 23 Decided on final corruption check
Seducing the Nations of Men 15 Release the Prisoners 21 Failed corruption on both sides. Brutal!
Seducing the Nations of Men 28 Dwarven Quest 34 Stole Gollum & double down on followers
Seducing the Nations of Men 25 Bargain Between Friends 24
Seducing the Nations of Men 34 Return of the King 15 TPK corruption and killing

Tournament Points
Vs. Minion: 4+2+4+4=14
Vs. Hero 4+2+2+4+6=18
Total Tournament Points: 32
Vroomer
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This is some good data.

Looks like:
1-the Stewards won't be good stewards.
2-we won't release many prisoners.
3-the King might return. Best flip a coin.
4-dwarves always get their gold & treasure. Naturally.
5-we'll drive a hard bargain with our friends.
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