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by Bandobras Took
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:14 am
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Warm Now Be Heart and Limb
Replies: 14
Views: 691

Re: Warm Now Be Heart and Limb

My guess is that the intent of the card is that the sages who tap to do so on declaration as an active condition of the healing effect, with the succeeding cc(s) each being their own chain of effects.
by Bandobras Took
Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Ioreth And Well-Preserved
Replies: 4
Views: 490

Ioreth And Well-Preserved

Healing effects affect all characters in her company. Magic. Shadow‐magic. Playable on a wounded character in a company with a shadow‐magic‐using character. Wounded character becomes untapped with ‐1 to body. Would the -1 to body apply to all characters healed by Well-Preserved as part of the heali...
by Bandobras Took
Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Forum: Decks, Strategy, Tips, Ideas
Topic: Countering 'Pilfer Anything Unwatched' against a hobbit?
Replies: 8
Views: 824

Re: Countering 'Pilfer Anything Unwatched' against a hobbit?

One I didn't see mentioned is Necklace of Silver and Pearls. +5 mind to the Hobbit, costing no influence, can be a life-saver.
by Bandobras Took
Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:08 pm
Forum: Decks, Strategy, Tips, Ideas
Topic: FW Rings-For-Points Discussion
Replies: 7
Views: 605

Re: FW Rings-For-Points Discussion

On second thought, scratch the Riddle Game. Between the possible necessity of facing auto-attacks at various sites and the absolutely disastrous consequences should you lose, it's as unreliable as everything else.
by Bandobras Took
Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:09 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

And could not be targeted. But Neither so Ancient Nor so Potent has special text that allows for it. Armory has special text that allows for playing of some cards already stored (these from under Armory). My contention is that the same special text which overrides that specific rule also overrides ...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:26 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

You may place any minor items from your hand under Armory during your organization phase. You seem to have forgotten that storing is only one of the ways of putting an item under Armory. Also, certain cards *do* place other cards off to the side. Armory is not one of these cards. Cards that place t...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:41 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

I see no functional difference in this case between the two. Compare Burglary, which specifies "an item *normally playable at the site*." Gems of Arda also lists further restrictions on "a non-special item." See also Black Rain, where playing "an item" is permitted rega...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:17 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

I can heartily agree with that, but it has no bearing here. I switched the order only to make more clear what is already there.

Armory does not say "you may play such an item from under Armory instead", it says "you may play an item from under Armory instead."
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:25 am
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

Thrall of the Voice changes "which character you may play instead normal" not "from where". Armory does not say "instead of an item that you are allowed to play from hand at a site you may play an item from under Armory". That is exactly what Armory says. When you othe...
by Bandobras Took
Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:13 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

Example of a card with simple "alternate source" wording:

Rumours of Rings

"You may play a ring special item placed with this card as though it were in your hand." This is an example where normal restrictions would apply.

But Armory has different phrasing.
by Bandobras Took
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:49 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

If you are allowed to play a character in the draft, it must have 5 mind and be non-orc/troll. Thrall of the Voice apparently doesn't change this, even though it says you may play a character with up to six mind instead. At least according to your argument. The item under Armory is played *instead* ...
by Bandobras Took
Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:18 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Re: Armory Hoard Bypass

Unless I misremember, Hoard minor items are only playable at sites with dragon automatic attacks, therefore that is where they can normally be played (and only there). Also, the Site restrictions rule out dragon automatic attacks. The part in parenthesis is the point of contention. This argument is...
by Bandobras Took
Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:11 am
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Armory Hoard Bypass
Replies: 35
Views: 1188

Armory Hoard Bypass

Only you and your companies can use Armory. You may place any minor items from your hand under Armory during your organization phase. A character at a Haven [ ] can store a minor item under Armory instead of to your marshalling point pile. When you otherwise would be allowed to play a minor item fr...
by Bandobras Took
Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:11 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Nature's Revenge on Wizardhaven when many of them is in play
Replies: 14
Views: 664

Re: Nature's Revenge on Wizardhaven when many of them is in play

True. The fact that it's redundant is yet another indication that the lack of such phrasing on Fortress means there's no intention to have it apply to any site other than the one it was played on.
by Bandobras Took
Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:05 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Nature's Revenge on Wizardhaven when many of them is in play
Replies: 14
Views: 664

Re: Nature's Revenge on Wizardhaven when many of them is in play

Would be the effects the Fortress of the Towers different if the card would be played not on The White Towers? Obviously. You yourself quoted the rule stating that a permanent-event *not* played on a site affects all versions of affected sites. If Playable on The White Towers, would be other copies...

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