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by Bandobras Took
Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:59 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Prowess of Age and The Tormented Earth (could vs would)
Replies: 16
Views: 1740

Re: Prowess of Age and The Tormented Earth (could vs would)

The body of the character exists at declaration.

The eight cards do not exist at declaration.
by Bandobras Took
Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:57 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Ioreth And Well-Preserved
Replies: 4
Views: 490

Re: Ioreth And Well-Preserved

Untapping effects are not healing effects, so you cannot use something which untaps to heal a wounded character.

A healing effect may untap at its leisure.
by Bandobras Took
Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:54 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Reluctant Final Parting - where Quickbeam may be played?
Replies: 4
Views: 464

Re: Reluctant Final Parting - where Quickbeam may be played?

Another case of ICE imprecision. Read "site at which the ally can be played" as "site listed on the ally card."
by Bandobras Took
Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:02 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

Children use grammar rules before they go to school, not knowing that they use grammar rules and even not knowing that there is such thing as grammar. Some people break grammar rules, knowing or not knowing that grammar rules exist. For me it looks like ICE, even if not deliberately, was using some...
by Bandobras Took
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:09 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

Having to remove it from the game only for acting like weariness of the heart seems harsh too :) If not, there would never be a reason to include Weariness of the Heart. @ Konrad: The point is simply that the use of paragraphs is arbitrary. There is no reason to assume deliberate function in one in...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:14 am
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

There isn't any regularity. Compare Will of Sauron with Fellowship. One is indented and the other is not. It means nothing other than that they didn't feel like a new paragraph.
by Bandobras Took
Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:09 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

That is the default way to understand it, yes.
by Bandobras Took
Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:42 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

It's for both, in the absence of any statement that indicates it's for only one of the uses. This would be the general policy of dealing with discard/remove clauses on any card in the game.
by Bandobras Took
Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:18 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Post/common effect - convention
Replies: 24
Views: 860

Re: Post/common effect - convention

In this case, it is the ambiguities of the English language. I do not believe the presence or absence of a line break is meant to have rules significance; it is more likely that such is simply formatting to make the text more readable/better balanced within the confines of the text box.
by Bandobras Took
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:56 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow
Replies: 21
Views: 1095

Re: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow

Now you've got me going back to the very beginning with these stupid passive condition rules. ICE's vague language strikes again! And I believe the answer lies in the MELE glossary: Condition, passive: An action that causes another action to take effect. The triggered action will be the first decla...
by Bandobras Took
Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:02 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow
Replies: 21
Views: 1095

Re: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow

I've said it before and I'll say it again: timing rules are a mess. or simply use common sense. If this was meant to be self-cancelling, the card would simply start like "Warrior only. If bearer is a Man, tap to...", or even more simply "Man Warrior only. Tap to..." If common se...
by Bandobras Took
Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:07 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow
Replies: 21
Views: 1095

Re: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow

I've said it before and I'll say it again: timing rules are a mess. :)
by Bandobras Took
Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:24 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow
Replies: 21
Views: 1095

Re: Active conditions of effect of Black Arrow

Help me out, here: Annotation 9 talks about an action resolving when that action has been created by a passive condition.

9a talks about a *condition* resolving.

How on earth does a condition even resolve? Declared actions resolve, not conditions.

What is 9a *actually* talking about?
by Bandobras Took
Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:57 pm
Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
Topic: Results of action caused by passive condition vs Ongoing effect
Replies: 7
Views: 429

Re: Results of action caused by passive condition vs Ongoing effect

The reason I ask is that enough difficulties arise from it that I'd rather be certain it was something ICE officially said, rather than something ICE implied as a response to something else.

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